From exigy@one.net Sat Mar 9 19:08:40 1996 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com (nova.unix.portal.com [156.151.1.101]) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA05392 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 19:08:39 -0800 Received: from mail.one.net (mail.one.net [206.112.192.107]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA23782 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 19:08:38 -0800 Received: from shell.one.net (exigy@shell.one.net [206.112.192.106]) by mail.one.net (8.7.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA05625; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:14:51 -0500 Received: (from exigy@localhost) by shell.one.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA22640; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:19:36 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:19:34 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Owens To: Chris Sherwood cc: gsp-users@portal.com Subject: RE: Expression pedal stuff...... In-Reply-To: red-48-msg960308212055MTP[01.52.00]000000af-123000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Chris Sherwood wrote: > > Another thing that I found to be very shakey sounding (wonder if anyone > here has done this with better results): I thought it would be cool for a > pedal (internal or external... tho I think I was trying this with the > external) > to modify the gain (toe==gain up, heel==gain down) while at the same > time doing the opposite to master volume. The idea here is that you > could fine tune yer grit during playback while not changing your overall > volume level. Anyone? > I tried this with a patch posted on this list back in January: ** NOTE: this is a partial re-listing: ** ** My hat's off to Mr. Hespos for a deceptively simple ** ** patch that's a whole lotta fun to play with! ** From wildman@euphonix.com Mon Mar 11 15:24:40 1996 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com (nova.unix.portal.com [156.151.1.101]) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA25852 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 15:24:39 -0800 Received: from coyote.euphonix.com (COYOTE.EUPHONIX.COM [207.20.3.10]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA29492 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 15:21:10 -0800 Received: from [206.13.77.3] (ppp-19.general.net [206.13.77.19]) by coyote.euphonix.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA28619 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 15:21:41 -0800 X-Sender: wildman@mail.euphonix.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 15:20:49 -0700 To: gsp-users@portal.com From: wildman@euphonix.com (Andy Wild) Subject: Try this reverb Status: RO X-Status: The reverbs in the gsp are not easy to program, you get all the parameters but they do take a bit of tweeking to get them right. What I would really like is a set of patches for the reverbs that simulate all the main room types like: Hall, Medium Room, Chamber, Plate etc. Without these starting patches it is very difficult to get a particular sound, say that of a small club, without knowing a lot about how reverbs work. I am a bit rusty on all the theory, and haven't go the time to program all day to get these basic patches. So I work mainly by experimenting with the main parameters. The part of the manual that deals with this is not too bad, it explains what all the parameters do but not how to use them to simulate a particular sound. At the moment I tend to use the GsP in the stereo gigaverb mode for long and full reverbs rather than for smaller room sounds. Here is my usual setting with the function key set to adjust the rt60 time. > Big One > Algorithm: User. SDisc 1 Flange, Chorus, Delay. Sdisc 2 Stereo >Gigaverb. > The settings for the Comp, Distort, EQ and the stereo delay are how I use it with Guitar as a patch. i have a twin s disc user algorithm for this patch, with a hint of flange and chorus only. The dalay gives it more fullness. You can try just the reverb or just the delay settings. if you only have a single sdisc. I havn't inlcuded the flange and chorus settings as I used the default values of these devices, adjusting the level so I just get a hint of them. > Compressor: On, Ratio 1.5:1, Thresh -45dB, Level -6 dB > Distortion: On, Type Distorted Tube, Gain 1 5.0, Gain 2 6.3 (for >single coil pickup) > Analog EQ: -2, 0, 0, +2, +4, +2, 0 > Master Volume: Distortion On +6 dB > External FX Loop: Off > Stereo Noise Gate: On, Thresh -69dB, Hyst 6dB, Hld time, attack & >release 0dB, Attn 60dB, Dlay 4ms > Stereo Delay 1.0s > dealy on, Delay .4s, Fdbk 39%, Lvl 56, Rpt hld off > Gigaverb: Reverb On, PreDly 3ms, Spread 200ms > Shape 5, ER SBlend 33, ERLev 53, > PreDly 4 ms, Spread 200 ms, X-Over 10000 Hz > Difusn 10, HFDecy 4000 Hz, Roloff 20000 Hz > Size 5, RT60 4.0 s, Mid Lev 70, Bass lvl 80, Sblend 0, Level 50 > > Wet To Dry: 29/71 > The combination of the reverb and the delay make this sound very big. I use function button for the RT60 time of the reverb and for the Delay time. Andy Wild From wild2@euphonix.com Sat Mar 16 17:58:39 1996 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com (nova.unix.portal.com [156.151.1.101]) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA04405 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 17:58:38 -0800 Received: from coyote.euphonix.com (coyote.euphonix.com [207.20.3.10]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA07789 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 17:58:16 -0800 Received: from [206.13.77.1] (ppp-09.general.net [206.13.77.9]) by coyote.euphonix.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA29765 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 17:59:00 -0800 X-Sender: wild2@mail.euphonix.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 17:58:03 -0700 To: gsp-users@portal.com From: wild2@euphonix.com (Andy Wild) Subject: Patch: Big One Status: RO X-Status: I posted this in haste last time. Here is the full patch with some tweeks I= have recently made. I adjusted this over studio monitor speakers using the= emulator in circuit and not through my amp and cabinet. It uses 2 sdiscs as you can see for that giga sound. I really like stereo delays so I have used the delay to enlarge the sound= rather than just have a reverb. The Stereo delay adds a fullness you can't= get with just a reverb. I also find that my single coil pickup is not that hot so I have started to= use the gain stage at the end of the compressor set at +6 and reduce the= tube gain controls.You will need to tweek these gain controls for your= preferred sound.=20 SDISC 1 =20 ______ ___ ______ ___ _____ =20 Lin -o-| |-| |-o-| |-| |---o-| |--- | |Mono | |2x1| | |Dual | |3x2| | | Sdly|=20 | |Flange| |Mxr| | |Chorus| |Mxr| | | 1.0s|=20 | |______| | | | |______|-| |-o-|-|_____|--- | | | | | | | | =20 |----------|___| |----------|___| | |----------- | =20 |------------- =20 SDISC 2 =20 ___ _____ ___ --| |---o-| |--| |______ L out |4x2| | |St | |4x2| |Mxr| | |Gigvb| |Mxr| --| A |-o-|-|_____|--| B |______ R out | | | | | | --| | | |----------| | | | | | | --|___| |------------|___|=20 #Compressor Ratio =3D 1.5:1 Thresh =3D -45 Level =3D 6 #Distortion Dist.type =3D Distorted Tube Dist.gain1=3D 3.3 Dist.gain2=3D 3.0 # Analog EQ EQ.80Hz =3D -2 EQ.160Hz =3D 0 EQ.320Hz =3D 0 EQ.640Hz =3D +2 EQ.1.28KHz =3D +4 EQ.2.56KHz =3D +2 EQ.5.12KHz =3D -2 #Master volume Master.Vol =3D +11 #Stereo Noise Gate Thresh =3D -69 Hyster =3D 6 Hold =3D 0ms Attack =3D 0 Release =3D 160ms Attn =3D 20 Delay =3D 4ms #Mono Flange=20 Level =3D 75 Delay =3D 3.3ms Regen =3D -75% Speed =3D .31Hz Depth =3D 3.75ms Wvfm =3D Sine #2x1 Mixer Level 1 =3D 100 (Flange) Level 2 =3D 100 (Direct from Left Input) Level Out =3D 100 #Dual Chorus Level =3D 53 Delay1 =3D 3ms Delay2 =3D 3ms Speed =3D .75Hz Depth =3D 4.0ms Wvform =3D Sine #3x2 Mixer Level 1 =3D 100 (Chorus L) Pan full Lft Level 2 =3D 100 (Chorus R) Pan Full Right Level 3 =3D 100 (Direct from Flange Mixer) Pan Center Level Out1 =3D 100 Level Out2 =3D 100 #Stereo Delay Delay =3D .400 =46eedback =3D 39% Level =3D 56 RptHold =3D Off # 4x2 mixer #1 4x2mxr.Input1Lev =3D 100 (from Dly L) 4x2mxr.Input1Pan =3D 50L 4x2mxr.Input2Lev =3D 100 (from Dly R) 4x2mxr.Input2Pan =3D 50R 4x2mxr.Input3Lev =3D 100 (from 3 x 2 Chorus L) 4x2mxr.Input3Pan =3D 50L 4x2mxr.Input4Lev =3D 100 (from 3 x 2 Chorus R) 4x2mxr.Input4Pan =3D 50R 4x2mxr.OuputLeft =3D 100 4x2mxr.OuputRight=3D 100 # Stereo Gigaverb: PreDly 3ms,=20 Spread 200ms =20 Shape 5,=20 ER SBlend 33,=20 ERLev 53, PreDly 4 ms Spread 200 ms X-Over 10000 Hz=20 Difusn 10 HFDecy 4000 Hz Roloff 20000 Hz Size 5 RT60 4.0 s Mid Lev 70 Bass lvl 80 Sblend 0 Level 50 # 4x2 mixer #2 4x2mxr.Input1Lev =3D 100 (from reverb L) 4x2mxr.Input1Pan =3D 50L 4x2mxr.Input2Lev =3D 100 (from reverb R) 4x2mxr.Input2Pan =3D 50R 4x2mxr.Input3Lev =3D 100 (from 4x2 ST Delay L) 4x2mxr.Input3Pan =3D 50L 4x2mxr.Input4Lev =3D 100(from 4x2 ST Delay R) 4x2mxr.Input4Pan =3D 50R 4x2mxr.OuputLeft =3D 100 4x2mxr.OuputRight=3D 100 #Wet to dry mixer Dry 85 Wet 15 (This is a critical setting as this reverb is big so careful adjustment to t= aste.) I have linked the Delay time, The Reverb RT60 time and master volume to the= function keys. I sometimes use this as an effects patch from my console aux send. In this= case I just adjust for 100% wet so as not to get direct signal through the= GSP when mixing the GSP with the console's signal as reverb return. I also= usually switch off chorus and flange when I use this as a reverb from the= desk.=20 Andy Wild