From chrisshe@microsoft.com Tue Mar 19 20:04:35 1996 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com (nova.unix.portal.com [156.151.1.101]) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA04939 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 20:04:34 -0800 Received: from tide03.microsoft.com (tide03.microsoft.com [131.107.3.13]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA26987 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 20:04:34 -0800 Received: by tide03.microsoft.com; id UAA14449; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 20:15:52 -0800 Received: from unknown(157.54.17.73) by tide03.microsoft.com via smap (g3.0.3) id xma014443; Tue, 19 Mar 96 20:15:27 -0800 Received: from xnet1 ([157.54.17.204]) by imail1.microsoft.com (8.7.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id UAA08348 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 20:09:52 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from red-48-msg by xnet1 with receive; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 20:05:27 -0800 X-MSMail-Message-ID: BE32C9D2 X-MSMail-Conversation-ID: BE32C9D2 X-MSMail-Fixed-Font: 0001 From: Chris Sherwood To: gsp-users@portal.com Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 20:05:08 TZ Subject: PATCH: Wah Pan Alley Cc: neilst@microsoft.com, susanno@microsoft.com X-MsXMTID: red-48-msg960320040522MTP[01.52.00]000000af-137947 Message-Id: red-48-msg960320040522MTP[01.52.00]000000af-137947 Status: RO X-Status: View in Monospace font. Alrighty then, my first patch and algorithm. I took off running with PBAKERs idea of running some auto-wah modules off of an auto-panner; but I took it further, adding a ducker module and big reverb. SUMMARY: bluesy guitar that has a multi-facetted mode of expression on the attack and sustain. The ducker keeps it from being another totally wet effect. The guitar can be played totally full bore with no apparent affect, or playing dynamics can allow the effects in... all without touch a button/controller/pedal. ALGORITHM NAME: Verb,Duc>Pan>Wah SDISC 1 +----------------------> to Ducker Left | _____ Left ----o----| |----> to Mixer 3 |St | |Gigvb| Right ---o----|_____|----> to Mixer 4 | +-----------------------> to Ducker Right SDISC 2 ______ ______ __________ _____ | | | |--|AutoWah A | | | Left -----|Mono | |Auto | |__________|--1 | | |-----+ | __________ | | Right -----|Ducker| |Panner| |AutoWah B | | 4x2 |--> L |______| |______|--|__________|--2 | | Mix | ------ from Reverb Left -------------------3 | | |--> R ------ from Reverb Right ------------------4 | |_____| ALGORITHM LINKING: ----------------- Left input to SGIG Inp 1 Right input to SGIG Inp 2 Left input to DUCK Inp 1 Right input to DUCK Inp 2 DUCK out 1 to PAN 1 Pan out 1 to WAH A input 1 Pan out 2 to WAH B input 1 WAH A out 1 to 4x2 mix input 1 WAH B out 1 to 4x2 mix input 2 SGIG out 1 to 4x2 mix input 3 SGIG out 2 to 4x2 mix input 4 4x2 out 1 to left out 4x2 out 3 to right out PATCH PARAMETERS: ----------------- NAME: Wah Pan Alley ANALOG: COMPRESSOR: Bypass (need dynamics for wah) DISTORTION: On, Type = Clean Tube, Gain1 = 7.0 EQ: +6, +2, 0, +2, +2, +4, +4 MASTER VOL: +6 (don't change until you've reviewed wah sound later) EXT. FX LOOP: No Sum ST. NOISE GATE: On, Thresh: -66, Hyst: 6 dB, Hold Time: 26ms, Attack: 0ms Release: 75ms, Attn: 12dB, Delay: 7.5ms DIGITAL: STEREO GIGAVERB: On, ER Predly: 0ms, Spread: 80, Shape: 3, Sblend: 15, Level: 6 Predly: 22ms, Spread: 40ms, Xover: 1250 hz, Diffsn: 6, HFdcy: 12,5000, Roloff: 16,000, Size: 3, RT60: .90 MidLev: 30, Baslev: 40, Sblend: 24, Level: 10 MONO DUCKER: On, Thresh: -10, Holdtm: 0, Attn: -80db, Attack: 3.3, Rel: 9.70 PANNER: On Speed: 3.8, Depth: 78, Level: 1.00 AUTO WAH A: On, Level: 100, Sens: 52 AUTO WAH B: On, Level: 100, Sens: 90 4x2 MIXER: Input 1 Level: 80, Pan: -50, Input 2 Level: 80, Pan: +50, Input 3 Level: 100, Pan: -50, Input 4 Level: 100, Pan: +50, Output Left: 100, Output Right: 100 DRY to WET: 12 to 88 LINKS: ----- FN1: Verb on/off, FN2: Ducker on/off, FN3: Panner on/off FC1: Autopanner Speed, Min.: 0.60hz, Max: 10.00 hz PROGRAMMING/TWEEK NOTES: ---------------------- -- I programmed this playing a strat with single coil Lace Sensors -- If the ducker doesn't seem to do anything with those settings, adjust the Master Vol in the analog section first to adjust for different guitar outputs. -- Works well with other distortions as well, but different gain settings may change ducker/wah sensitivity. You might compensate with Mast Vol. in the analog section -- To cause the ducker to disengage quicker (get the auto-wah to fade in sooner), adjust the Threshold parameter (add to it). The threshold should be set so that the panning wahs come in not too long after you hold your note; otherwise you're likely to go on to another note and never hear it. -- If you want the ducker to kick in, but not totally duck out the panning-wahs, raise the Ducker Attn parameter (toward 0) -- Note that the Wahs have different sensitivity for a more interesting wobble--experiment at will! -- I may have the pans dead left/right on the mixer, but note that the auto-panner depth is not 100. PLAYING NOTES: ------------- -- The ducker attack time is set long for a good reason--you get a touch of wah quacking at the start of your first note after silence. You folk that can play right-hand palm-muted notes (for right hand guitar) should have a kick with this. Deliberate on/off fretting with rests should also show this off. -- My Favorite pedal position is total heel down (slowest panning). Try this: heel down the Pedal (if you don't have a pedal, set the panner speed to 0.60 hz). Play a note and hold it -- since the ducker has such a long release, the held note should slowly acquire a tonal shift from the wah. This is very expressive! Try to time it so that you're bending the note about the time the slow wah begins to fade in. This discovery almost made me keep this patch to myself, but you may not be so enthused. If you use it on a recording, you have my permission to mention me in thanks ;^) -- Turn down the output of your guitar to mostly disable the ducker. This would be cool for laying down a moving texture behind something like a rhythm section, with the panner always on; then you could raise the output of your guitar to kick in a biting solo that only panning/wahs with certain playing dynamics. LAST COMMENTS: ------------- -- Not surprisingly, I spend more time goofing with the reverb than anything. I was looking for a small, not too overpowering verb, but I don't think I achieved it. In the end, I simply reduced levels to reduce the effect. If anyone has any advice, I'll take it. Chris